HWH COMMENT: Actually, this woman who claims she has had a lifetime of encounters with predatory men, seems more like the offender looking for men who will have a quick encounter.
How do you rape somebody with tights on without being able to squirm away, especially in a high-end department store? Two decades later and she says she’s a mature woman and can handle it. Just how did she handle it?
I can’t imagine having a lifetime of predator men raping me and doing nothing about it.
How is it that this woman is credible? Are we to believe everybody who comes forward two or three decades later with a grab and run or a rape story? I agree that too few people come forward, but how about now. Why aren’t more women coming forward with what happened last night? Why aren’t they in the news for the world to rally behind?
Larry Sabato from the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics is quoted as saying that Trump is simply exempt from the rules everybody else has to obey. Sabato fails to mention past presidents who had ‘playboy’ reputations while actually in the White House: John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson just to name two. These behaviors decades ago were pretty much expected of powerful men. And who is ‘everybody else’ that Sabato refers to that have to obey the rules? Italian men? Arab men? Spanish men? Russian men. Jewish men? And what are the rules he speaks of?
Locker room talk. What actually is that? Men bragging about their sexual exploits that never really happened? How common is that? How common two and three decades ago was that? These writers went to the trouble of reaching out to a so-called expert, yet failed to ask all the right questions? It seems like this article was purposely slanted against one man. Who were all the other predatory men that magically came into this accusers life throughout her entire life? Any names to those men?
She waited too long. She acts like twenty years ago we were in the 1920s. The sexual revolution had already occurred in the 60s and 70s. Women were out of the sexual repression closet and free love reigned. “Make love not war”.
Some women want encounters with sexually-free individuals. They’re not all predators (male or female). Twenty years later maybe she feels ashamed. Can money cure shame? To mention the alleged rape it in a book she’s selling reeks of opportunism. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t. Still, she used it to advance her status, which is exactly what men do. They use women to advance their status. So welcome to the female oppressor club. Is this what women really want, to be like men? Then they are no better, justified or not.
She should have got her revenge, if she was revenge-worthy, twenty years ago. Too shy to kick a guy in the balls in a high-end department store dressing room? Not if she had encounters with predatory men her entire life.
There were lots of people around. She wouldn’t have been harmed if she screamed.
Hey, if she’s going to try to convince the world of an alleged rape that happened decades ago, then the world has the right to question what she did back then to prevent it.
People like E. Jean Carroll make it difficult for current-day victims to come forward. The press only focuses on those alleged assaults that happened decades ago and that can’t be proven one way or the other. Is that fair to anyone? Is it fair to alleged victims? It makes it look like the press is talking about rape, but they really aren’t talking. They’re telling stories about potential assaults that may or may not have happened.
That hurts the women assaulted last night. By exploiting the past for personal gain, the past repeats itself.
Focus on the NOW in order to change the future for all victims of violent crime.
[Sen. Mazie Hirnono, a Hawaii Democrat, called it a sad day when a rape accusation against the president leaves the country numb.
“With this president you have the Iran situation going on, you have North Korea going on, you have the border crisis going on,” she said.]
Note: So I’m wondering why a decades old sexual assault claim against a current president that gets revealed in a new book by the alleged accuser should take precedent over the Iran, North Korea and Border crises in this country? This is what I’m talking about. E. Jean Carroll waits twenty years, reveals it in a book and at least one women senator is sad that national security issues were taking away from the press coverage of Carroll’s book of revelations. WHOA. Women have become predators. She waited twenty years, do you think she could wait a while longer while the country focuses on pressing security issues of the day?
The name of the book is WHAT DO WE NEED MEN FOR? I believe E. Jean Carroll made that abundantly clear: to exploit them.
AP NEWS: Nearly a week after the latest sexual misconduct accusation against President Donald Trump, the story has largely landed with a thud.
Some see the muted response to author E. Jean Carroll’s allegation of Trump assaulting her in a department store dressing room more than two decades ago as yet another example of the divisive Politics of Trump: Those who support him dismiss it as fake news. Those against him see it as confirmation of what they knew all along.
“Essentially, you’re either for him or against him, and if you’re for him, it doesn’t matter what he’s done,” said Larry Sabato, who directs the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. “It really is remarkable. He simply is exempt from the rules everyone else must obey.”
It’s a cycle that’s been repeated before. After more than a dozen women came forward during Trump’s 2016 campaign with allegations of sexual misconduct years earlier, Trump called them “liars” who sought to harm his campaign with “100-percent fabricated” stories. When the “Access Hollywood” tape emerged weeks before the election of him bragging about grabbing women by the genitals, he dismissed it as “locker room talk.”
In the case of Carroll, a feature writer and longtime Elle advice columnist, her accusation was revealed in an excerpt to an upcoming book, leading Trump and others to cast her aside as an opportunist. Her book, “What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal,” describes what she calls a lifetime of encounters with predatory men, starting with her early years as an Indiana cheerleader and pageant winner.
She said that Trump, in the mid-1990s, followed her into a dressing room after a chance encounter at the high-end New York department store Bergdorf Goodman and proceeded to pull down her tights and sexually assault her. Trump, in denying the account on Monday, said she’s “not my type,” a stunning remark from a U.S. president that briefly breathed life into the story.
But even ranking Democrats such as Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois were resigned to how it would all play out. “I wouldn’t dismiss it,” he told The Washington Post, “but let’s be honest, he’s going to deny it and little is going to come of it.”
Lawyer Debra Katz, who represented Christine Blasey Ford in her Senate testimony on her alleged high school assault by then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, concurred.
“The electorate knew this about him. This is nothing new about his character or his behavior — at this point there have been, what, 13 credible accusers?” Katz said. “People have become inured to it. And it’s disgraceful.”
Carroll, who did not return messages left on her cell phone from The Associated Press this week, stopped short in various television interviews of calling what happened to her rape and described the experience as a “three-minute” ordeal that did not change her life. Carroll has said she doesn’t plan to seek criminal charges and it appears the statute of limitations has run out.
“I’m a mature woman. I can handle it,” she said on MSNBC. “My life has gone on. I’m a happy woman.”
It didn’t help that Carroll’s book excerpt dropped late last Friday and was largely drowned out by events of the week: the refugee crisis at the border, the U.S. brinkmanship with Iran and the regular onslaught of news about the environment, the economy and the 2020 election.
“We are trauma-fatigued by the volume of despairing issues seemingly beyond our personal control,” said Carrie Goldberg, a New York lawyer who represents victims of sexual assault and revenge porn. “When a solution feels beyond grasp, it can be impossible to muster an appropriate emotional reaction.”
Sen. Mazie Hirnono, a Hawaii Democrat, called it a sad day when a rape accusation against the president leaves the country numb. “With this president you have the Iran situation going on, you have North Korea going on, you have the border crisis going on,” she said. “So after a while you just practically throw up your hands.”
___AP writers Kali Robinson and AP video journalist Padmanda Rama contributed to this report from Washington.